Now that's one intelligent post smartypants. HA HA HA. WOW. WTF?

hope you "poor hunters" don't use any animal byproducts in your gardens..namely fertilizer since it is cruelly stolen from our animal brethren, depriving them of the right to wallow in it. Yes, cows should be free to live in peace and harmony in the wild with the bears and the wolves. Keep posting fellows, this is WAY too funny!

If God had intended us to be vegans, he wouldn't have made animals taste like meat! I can't wait for a deep fried cheeseburger at the next county fair!

I show sheep at the Walworth County Fair, its not that bad. I have also shown pigs and ducks. Don't tell me "Every person that eats animal flesh, including President Barack Obama, Al Gore, Oprah Winfrey and their family members should spend one day visiting a factory farm and slaughterhouse for an entire day." I've been there done that and i will continue to eat meat. I'll admit its not the nicest thing in the world, i've even shown in the carcass contest for pigs and sheep at the fair. But everyone needs a little animal in them, they have nutrition we need. I don't mind you being proud vegans, but give us meat lovers a break. The Walworth County Fair is amazing and i can't wait to show my Sheep this year. Come watch us all show on Thursday September 3, 2009 and you'll see we definately dont hate our animals. I like my two sheep, but it's the circle of life, and they are going to be sold this friday, bottom line!

Going vegan is not enough for sure. Humane Education (the respect and study of all living things) backed-up with a vegan school lunch would raise a generation that cares enough to save themselves. Lord knows, the corpse-munching parents are deeply brainwashed, as are/were all of us.

"Truth is if we treated animals better and were all vegans, not only would we live longer and solve the Health Care Crisis, but we would never have to worry about: Strokes, Heart Disease, Osteoporosis, Kidney Stones, Colon Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, Ovarian Cancer, Cervical Cancer, Stomach Cancer, Endometrial Cancer, Breast Cancer, Hypoglycemia, Diabetes, Kidney Disease, Peptic Ulcers, Constipation, Hemorrhoids, Hiatal Hernias, Diverticulosis, Obesity, Gallstones, Hypertension, Asthma, Salmonellosis, Trichinosis, Irritable Colon Syndrome, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (the human variant of Mad Cow Disease), Smallpox, Smithfield's Swine Flu Virus (Influenza), Tuberculosis, Malaria, Aids, Bubonic Plague, Measles, Cholera, AIDS, Global Warming, Factory Farming's Cruelty and Pollution, Starvation/World Hunger, School Shootings, and War."
You people actually had some good points until you started this crap! Now you are telling me that if everyone in the world were Vegans, there would be no disease or war, etc??? Wow! Its a miracle cure for the entire world!! Next you are going to tell me that Vegans don't drive cars or heat their homes.... because you realize that those things are killing our environment too, and will probably kill us faster than eating meat!

Sounds to me like the nuts that these vegans have been eating have gone straight to their heads.

Giddyup wrote, "When you resort to name-calling, you’ve lost the argument"

First of all, the negotaition/debate/argument was long over. What you call name-calling, I call speaking truths without sugar-coating. You would have to see through your indoctrination to realize it.

http://veganschool101.blogspot.com/2009/...

The inflammatory rhetoric, name-calling, and hypocrisy coming from militant vegans is most tiresome yet strangely entertaining. Warwak makes my point though. Non-human animals are just that, animals, and they act the part. They are not equal to humans. You can't have it both ways. Humans as a species are omnivorous and always have been. That is scientific fact. Whether we need to eat meat because we can get the same nutrition from plants is irrelevant. When you resort to name-calling, you’ve lost the argument. Enjoy your salad. I’ll have bacon bits on mine and if I don’t live as long because of it, so be it.

The issue really isn't a debate. The science has been out a long time. Common sense has been around even longer. Giddyup wrote the same old garbage corpse-munchers have been brainwashed with, "For those of you who complain about the way we eat/treat animals, just take a look at how animals eat/treat each other, or better yet, how a number of predators would treat you if they were hungry"

Fail. Cows are herbivores and would never eat you. As far as animals behaving like animals, I thought you corpse-munchers claim superiority over. Animals rape each other too, but that is no reason for humans to go around raping others ... all though milk-drinkers/pus-chuggers aready pay hit men to child (Mrs Cow is only a defenseless child) rape cows to supply your goodies. Shame on Giddyup.

For those of you who complain about the way we eat/treat animals, just take a look at how animals eat/treat each other, or better yet, how a number of predators would treat you if they were hungry. How many animals' homes or how much of their habitat have you or your food suppliers destroyed to provide your vegetables? How much food have you stolen out of the mouths of your herbivore friends? How many of your "friends" have you killed with your cars? Have you ever slapped a mosquito? Do ants, flys, roaches, earwigs, etc. run rampant in your homes? Eat what you want and lay off the inflammatory rhetoric and terrorist threats. It's just silly.

SORRY WARRAT, ANIMALS WERE MADE TO BE HUNTED AND EATEN AND WE ARE AT THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN. WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE ANIMALS IN THIS WORLD THAT HUNT AND EAT OTHER ANIMALS? GOD DESIGNED HUMANS TO EAT MEAT, NOT BE STRICTLY VEGANS. I LOVE EATING FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES OUT OF MY ORGANIC GARDEN. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED SALVATION MY FRIEND. HUMANS HAVE A SOUL, WHERE WILL YOURS BE WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS EARTH? YOU SHOULD START WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT, READ THE BOOK OF JOHN...........AND GO FROM THERE, YOU WON'T BE DISSAPOINTED!!!

FFANDREW wrote, "Why don't you read the bible and find out what it says about what we eat"

I read it and realize it was written by thousands of backwards corpse-munchers who do things without thinking for themselves just because losers before them did those same things.

FFANDREW wrote, "eating good quality organic beef, high in fat is actually good for people"

This is not just about diet. Don't believe everything you see. The world is an illusion. Wake up. There are many things all around us made from animals that we never notice. We're so disconnected; we don't even notice this right in front of our face three times a day. When we open our circle of compassion to all, we grow as a people and our treatment of each other and others improves. It really is about peace, love, and compassion for all

GIven that I'm not a Christian, why should I care about what the Bible says about anything?

Warhawk or meathak, u r a goof! I have only a few comments.
1. I have recently visited the farm where we get our beef. The animals are raised and treated humanly, given no growth hormones or antibiotics, this of course until we eat them. We even have some pictures with the baby next to the animals.....maybe even the one we just had butchered.

2. Why don't you read the bible and find out what it says about what we eat.

3. Someone said that eating meat causes inflamation. This is the farthest from the truth. Actually, eating good quality organic beef, high in fat is actually good for people with inflammatory issues. White refined flour is one of the worse.

We understand MrBlack. You are fully indoctrinated. It is the children we are worried about and it is the children we are warning.

You "people" sure have changed my opinion. I have finally come to my senses. I'm going to go set Daisy free.

Dan Plutchak said: "It's one thing to be worried about swine flu. It's quite another to make threats about what people choose to eat. A vegan Web site,www.veganschool101.blogspot.com, has taken aim at the Walworth County Fair. "

Thankfully veganschool101 gives a voice to the nonhuman individuals who the Walworth County Fair TAKES AIM AT. It's always interesting how defensive people get when suddenly the animals that are murdered with impunity have people unafraid to speak for them.

Personally, as far as those who choose to eat slaughtered innocents, I too hope they would educate themselves. But for those who have no interest in the horror that their selfishness is the cause of, I am thankful for swine flu.

I only wish it wouldn't take months/years to wipe out the parastic humans who've no respect for life.

Dan wrote, "I appreciate their passion to oppose the use of animal products, but of all the issues we face today, promoting the violent overthrow of non-vegans, doesn't quite make it to the top of my list"

You should bump it up on your list Dan.

Truth is if we treated animals better and were all vegans, not only would we live longer and solve the Health Care Crisis, but we would never have to worry about: Strokes, Heart Disease, Osteoporosis, Kidney Stones, Colon Cancer, Prostate Cancer, Pancreatic Cancer, Ovarian Cancer, Cervical Cancer, Stomach Cancer, Endometrial Cancer, Breast Cancer, Hypoglycemia, Diabetes, Kidney Disease, Peptic Ulcers, Constipation, Hemorrhoids, Hiatal Hernias, Diverticulosis, Obesity, Gallstones, Hypertension, Asthma, Salmonellosis, Trichinosis, Irritable Colon Syndrome, Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (the human variant of Mad Cow Disease), Smallpox, Smithfield's Swine Flu Virus (Influenza), Tuberculosis, Malaria, Aids, Bubonic Plague, Measles, Cholera, AIDS, Global Warming, Factory Farming's Cruelty and Pollution, Starvation/World Hunger, School Shootings, and War.

How true savetheanimals!

savetheanimals wrote, "Every person that eats animal flesh, including President Barack Obama, Al Gore, Oprah Winfrey and their family members should spend one day visiting a factory farm and slaughterhouse for an entire day"

Unfortunately Gore grew up on a farm and still doesn't care to change just as Barack Obama has visted slaughterhouses, witnessed children slicing through flesh and still does not care to change knowing it would solve the health care crisis and save the world ... all because he is a selfish war mongering corpse-muncher coming for your children for his wars and selfish appetite for death.

Even Barack "nothing that I will do" Obama commented on the Agriprocessors ethical black hole on a campaign stop in Davenport, IA, remarking, "They have kids in there wielding buzz saws and cleavers. It's ridiculous."

http://veganschool101.blogspot.com/2009/...

Poletti for save the animals.
Every person that eats animal flesh, including President Barack Obama, Al Gore, Oprah Winfrey and their family members should spend one day visiting a factory farm and slaughterhouse for an entire day.

They should make sure to bring their children so together they can appreciate the satisfaction they will feel after carefully viewing the entire process and completely unnecessary government authorized murder of innocent, helpless, precious irreplaceable animals.

They should each look into the eyes of the animal before they cut its throat. Listen to it scream. Watch it writhe in agony. Watch it squirm and struggle and die in a pool of blood.

Parents need to prove to their children why the hideous crimes of murdering precious animals is okay and that eating animal flesh is okay.

To feel the full impact and remember the full scope of the, once in a lifetime experience, they should make sure the flesh of the animals they watched being tortured and killed
is packed for them so they can take the flesh home and eat it!! How cool is this?

What a wonderful way to give yourself and your children the uplifting feeling and memory of seeing the reaction from terrified perfectly healthy vulnerable animals as they urinate, defecate and scream from fear just before they are tortured and murdered so that you and your children are able to use your stomachs as graveyards for their flesh.

What could be more fun or more rewarding. What a wonderful way to raise your children.

Tell those unrealistic vegetarians and vegans they do not know what they are missing. Tell those vegetarians and vegans you and your children will support and promote the torture and murder of precious animals for your entire life. Way to go corpse munchers.

Dan wrote, "But, once people know where there food is coming from, let them eat as they please."

Most people have no clue where there food comes from other than Walmart. And if these all knowing corpse-munching vultures did know where there food came from and ate it anyway ... well that would be a much larger crime --- forgive them for they do not know. But once one knows, forgiveness is not an option. But those that know and refuse to change, these are the truly evil people in the world.

Dan wrote, "I choose to eat meat, I'll eat it."

How would you feel if I were to say to you, I choose to eat people - maybe even one of your friends? Yes, Dan, animals are my friends - and don't tell me that loving Mrs Cow (an herbivore - just as our bodies are designed to be) would eat you if given the chance. When it gets down to it, people are so far removed from reality, they have lost their humanity. Just because you are in a position to demand violence/death on your plate with every meal doesn't make it right.

And then you have the nerve to jusify it all with your superior knowledge of where your food comes from - when you are too busy or afraid to meet the animals you eat until after you buy (you pay the hit man to destroy our world and eat my friends) their rotting body parts and various secretions at a supermarket. Did you know the last animal/meal you ate?

Fail

This is the program that served children downer dairy cows, at risk for mad cow disease, until the January recall of Hallmark beef, observes Warwak.

Yet the pro dairy message on the school posters--which feature sports figures and popular musicians and arrive unsolicited from the National Dairy Council--is misleading and harmful testified Dr. T. Colin Campbell on the basis of decades of his National Institutes of Health-funded research.

"The consumption of dairy, especially at the younger ages, is a problem," said Campbell which includes health consequences like higher risks of prostate, uterine, breast and endometrial cancers, osteoporosis and a "threefold higher risk of colon cancer."

The health promises about strong bones and healthy bodies on the posters are written by a USDA dietary committee, said Campbell, whose members were found by a court to have conflicts of interests after refusing a Freedom of Information request.

"Not only at Fox River Grove Middle School but also in thousands of schools across the country, corporate agribusiness has run amok in the attempt to utilize public education as a place to establish the naturalization of commercial meat and dairy as lifelong eating habits, to generate increased sales, to subsidize the food industry against decreased producer prices, as well as to funnel below-health standards food not fit for public sale. Warwak was correct to demand the riddance of the Dairy Council’s posters as they had in fact already been targeted for removal from approximately 105,000 public schools by the Federal Trade Commission." Richard Kahn PhD, University of North Dakota

http://inslide.com

Nature already has a solution for cows needing to be milked: calves. If we simply *left them alone* they wouldn't suffer *due to our actions.* That we artificially create an instance where cows have their calves taken from them and then "must" be milked isn't something we're doing for their comfort. We're doing it for the purpose of selling their milk.

It always amazes me that this seems to escape people, but if *we* create a situation, that doesn't actually justify what we're doing.

Maggiemay wrote, "Perhaps warwak just never had a good steak"

Wrong

I was on the Atkins Diet for 5 years and a fishing guide for almost 30 years before I came to my senses and became a vegan

As far as milking cows: Mrs Cow (who is only a child at 5 years old - making those who demand milk, child rapists) is mechanically raped to produce milk. Then her baby is stolen from her and she cries for weeks. Then we steal her milk. Then you evil corpse-munchers pen the baby in a veal crate and murder the baby after 12 weeks - then you push the tumor-feed on impressionable children lyingt o them that it will make their bones strong when in reality, it makes them weak.

Fail

Looks like vegans are as tolerant of diversity as the rest of their leftist brethren.

Perhaps warwak just never had a good steak. I suggest going to Sorg's and asking for a good cut of filet mignon. Grilled is best.

Please - I bet you don't believe in milking cows either? If you've ever seen a cow not milked you would know what real suffering is. Get over yourself. If you choose to not eat meat, that's your choice. To yell at us for eating your "friends" is just ludicrous.

The more animal flesh you eat, the sicker you will probably be. Animal flesh is poison to humans. It's the primary reason humans get heart disease, cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, and every other major degenerative disease. If eating flesh from corpses of tortured and murder animals is so great and natural it wouldn't destroy human health. Wise up, stop using your stomach as a graveyard for animal flesh. Do this for yourself. Do this for the animals. Do this for the earth. Do this for the earth's atmosphere.

What a bunch of crazy looney kooks, go sit around a campfire, smoke your pot and sing Kumbaya. I'm eating steak tonight..

eatlessmovemore wrote, "Vegans makeup 1.4% of the world population. Good Luck"

Thank you, but we don't need your luck or bogus well wishes as vegans are on the side of good and corpse-munchers are on the side of evil. Good always wins in the end. Besides, we already told the children and they don't like adults who are evil, lie, and try to brainwash them into corpse-munchers who bully and prey on weaker beings - our friends.

I know weak sorts---who have no valid reasons for their actions---find safety in numbers. Just because a view is popular doesn't make it right.

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Vegans makeup 1.4% of the world population. Good Luck.

Eating meat *is wrong*. It would be convenient for meat-eaters if ethical vegans would hush up and go away, but we aren't going to do that. We're speaking for animals who cannot meaningfully object to what you're doing to them in ways you'll choose to pay attention to.

They can't speak, but *we can,* and we will, no matter how often you folks complain about it.

smartypants there is a distinct difference between consuming plant based foods and animals. Specifically, animals are sentient. And as chickenheart pointed out... these "food" animals are no different in their awareness of the world or their desire to live than our pet cats or dogs. I think we are rapidly approaching a time when culture has to reconcile this dissonance between animals we love and those we eat.

I realize it's uncomfortable - Society and large corporate industries have kept this issue away from our view. It would be horrible to continue to kill innocent beings with the knowledge we now have... that it is entirely "unnecessary".

We live with a world view that it is wrong to harm animals unless there is a need to do so. We deplore the likes of M. Vick who deliberately inflict pain and suffering on innocent animals. Yet, meat eating reflects the same frivolous "pleasure". It is done unnecessarily and simply for "taste". We clearly do not "need" to eat animals to thrive... In fact, the opposite can be said to be true... a plant based diet is better for human health.

Aside from the ethical matter - and human health, there's dozens of other reasons why a plant based diet is a better choice for our future. To name just a few, there is the environment, better use of resources, sustainability, and the elimination of world hunger.

I think as time progresses we will realize the need to eliminate this violent and brutal practice of flesh eating... For the sake of our humanity - it must be so. Go Vegan!

I appreciate Dan's openness to the vegan perspective, but I do think there is a basic blind spot in our culture about animals used for food. We tend to think it's just a choice, like wearing blue pants or white pants.

I think that both Dan and Smarty Pants would agree that if someone came along and wanted to eat their beloved pet dog or cat, that they would protest vehemently and do all they could to prevent that from happening. Why? Because they care about their pet dog or cat. They see this being as a being with interests and feelings and a unique personality, and they have a natural feeling of protectiveness and compassion because they have gotten to know this creature.

What vegans are saying is that the cow, pig, chicken, lamb, and fish that we routinely eat in our culture are they same, in essence - they are individuals with feelings and interests and unique personalities, and we as vegans care about their interests enough to not only refrain from eating them and paying people to abuse and kill them, but also to do our best to stop the violent behavior of others toward them as well, as you would do for your pet.

I know it's a big step to get outside the cultural box of routine violence toward animals for food, but it is possible when our hearts and minds open, and it is a victory for the whole web of life when this happens.
Just as we have a right to ask people to stop beating a dog if we see that happening, we also have a right to ask people to stop eating the flesh of animals, which is just as direct and vicious an act.
The only difference is that it's culturally approved.

I've been vegan 29 years, and am healthier than anyone my age I meet - nobody needs to eat death and misery to be healthy.

No smartypants, your "opinion" is irrevelant. Torturing and murdering innocent individuals to harvest their flesh and secretions is an atrocity -- not a personal choice. You are selfish and in denial. Admit the holocaust is not a preference... it's an aberration... it's evil... then you can be part of the solution.
And we won't shut up!

It is not a "personal choice" when you are eating my friends and you are ruining my world. When you made your "personal choice" did you ask the animal if you could confine, torture, and murder him or her? When you made your "personal choice" did you ask me if I mind all your pollution and devastation? My tax money subsidizes your "personal choice." Just because we personally make selfish choices does not make them "personal choices."

No matter what anyone argues, schools feeding unsuspecting children the corpses of once living beings and promoting breast milk--complete with its blood, pus, and hormones--stolen from confined, drugged, and tortured cloned creatures as normal and healthy beyond infancy is a physically, socially, mentally, spiritually, and ecologically damaging, unnecessary crime against humanity.